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Dites que vous espérez l'y voir et prenez congé.

Google Translate says “Say you hope to see and take leave,” but that doesn't sound right. This is part of a set of instructions for writing an email inviting people to join a club. Could someone translate for me?

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    reverso.net/… donne une meilleur traduction en n'oubliant pas le lieu de la rencontre : "Say that you hope to see him(it) there and leave".
    – Personne
    Sep 24, 2013 at 12:43

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Prendre congé has the meaning of asking the permission to leave (duty, employment, but also a social gathering, etc.) and thus in the context of instructions about writing a letter means terminating the letter. Traditional French etiquette is very formal for that (see this answer for links).

For an email, those instructions seem much more formal that what is usual.

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    I really don't agree with the « asking the permission to leave » part of your answer. Saying « take a day off », « call off », « leave », « take leave » or something like that would be more appropriate. For example, let's say you're the boss, you still can « prendre congé » even though you don't « ask the permission » to anyone.
    – Tipx
    Sep 12, 2011 at 16:06
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I see that Google Translate, just like everyone, has a problem with "l'y"...

"Take leave" is the correct translation for "prendre congé", but in this case (an e-mail), a more topical wording would be "conclude with greetings".

As for the first part, the "l'y" part hasn't been taken into account, and it doesn't make sense without it. See if this is sound better to you: "Say you hope to see him/her there".

Notes: the instructions use formal language, which doesn't quite mix well with e-mail...

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"Prendre congé" means "to leave an assembly, a reception, etc." , usually with some words of greeting or thanks, but not necessarily.

"Prendre un congé" is official, and granted for holidays, maternity, studies, etc., for a fixed delay.

It is the origin of two funny expressions. At the Spanish Court, in the XVIth century, you had to salute every single person of an assembly when leaving. The French thought it was somewhat too formal and boring to just pay some respects for the hostess, for instance, and the Spanish invented the "Disperdirse a la francesa", promptly translated in English by "Take a French leave", without any tint of real reproach, because in fact everybody thought it to be reasonable.

The French then understood wrongly this, coming from the Perfid Albion, as "nicking off", and took revenge in translating back by "filer à l'anglaise", which is always pejorative.

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