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I am reading a beginners book to learn French. Somewhere in the book there is this sentence:

Tu n’as aucun accent !
You have no accent!

My question is, shouldn't it be "Tu n'as pas aucun accent !" instead?

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Words

ne + pas is the most standard negation indeed, but pas can be replaced with another word. For instance, you have ne + aucun, ne + jamais (Je ne suis jamais allé à Disney Studios.), ne + personne (Heureusement, il n'a blessé personne.), …

Adding pas to your example

This is just incorrect. An English approximation of this would be "You don't have no accent!" It might be the contrary of your meaning in an inelegant way, or just a plain mistake (though I understand the question).

As the OP remarked, this English form, though not being taught when learning English as a foreign language, exists in informal speech in some parts of the US. The French form, though, is incorrect everywhere as far as I am aware.

English equivalents

These are just examples, far from an exhaustive list. Please note they are not rules and may depend on context

  • ne + pas = not
  • ne + aucun = not any
  • ne + plus = not anymore
  • ne + jamais = not ever/never
  • ne + personne = not anybody
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    I would translate "You don't have no accent" instead of "You have not no accent", nope ? – Random Aug 31 '15 at 7:24
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    Thank you for you response. Let me add though that, as far as I know, "You don't have no accent" or "You ain't have no accent" is acceptable among some American people in informal speech. – Meysam Aug 31 '15 at 7:27
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    @Random Correct! I changed my mind as I first thought of "You have no any accent." – Chop Aug 31 '15 at 7:28
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    @Meysam Correct too, but it is not taught as being English. Thanks for the note, I will integrate it in the answer. – Chop Aug 31 '15 at 7:29
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    @Meysam Yes, they are mainly equivalent. There might be a slight nuance between the two, something like "Tu n'as pas d'accent." being "You don't have any accent." and "Tu n'as aucun accent." being "You don't have any accent." Note the d' in "ne + pas". I will not elaborate upon this here, but there are other questions on tis site about it. – Chop Aug 31 '15 at 7:54
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Normal use no longer allows pas/point with aucun, nul, jamais, rien, personne or guère to express a single negation. A reason for that is that such words have gained a negation meaning over time and cancel themselves out when used in such combinations (ce n'est pas rien/ne... pas... que). It is even more intricate as in some cases you can have such one negation being used positively in a negative context (viens-tu pas demander asile ? (Hugo)) and further cases where it is considered more acceptable (Il ne recommandait pas de tuer personne au nom de cette suprématie (Henriot)); the latter usually involving the use of a preposition or the second auxiliary being used as a complement. This should also be distinguished from cases where two negations are close but apply to different verbs (je ne vois pas cependant qu'aucun ait blâmé... (Brunot)) and therefore don't constitute a double negation.

But those restrictions may not apply to popular speech (je n'ai pas rien trouvé, attested) and therefore you may hear something such as the "tu n'as pas aucun accent" you mention, albeit not in a beginner's book geared at learners. You may also find it in more classical work :

Je n'ai pas besoin d'aucune preuve (Claudel)
Cette collection comme aucun prince n'en possède pas à l'heure actuelle (Proust)

There used to be a time when you could have combinations which are no longer normally allowed; the ne element carried over the whole negation and what followed had basically no impact over it : L'i de cette particule [=si] ne se mange point devant aucune des cinq voyelles (Vaugelas).1


1. All examples and content adapted from Le bon usage (Grevisse et Goosse, ed. Duculot) §§ 1019, 1021.

  • Very interesting, especially about history. I never encountered cases such as je n'ai pas rien trouvé and I guess everybody I know would understand this as mes recherches n'ont pas été vaines. You say it is attested; do you have more information about it for my own education? – Chop Aug 31 '15 at 12:42
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    OK, on a donc une notion de régionalité dans ce type d'usage. C'était surtout cette info que je cherchais. Merci. :) – Chop Aug 31 '15 at 13:11
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If you want to use pas, the correct French sentence is

tu n'as pas d'accent.

d' is added, because

  • “tu n'as pas accent” would make a hiatus (double 'a' sound)
  • “tu n'as pas de accent” would make a double wowel 'de' 'a'
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    The hiatus is not the cause here. Consider "Tu n'as pas de cheveux." – Chop Aug 31 '15 at 8:01
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    There is no hiatus in "tu n'a pas accent" since you pronounce the "s" of "pas"... – Random Aug 31 '15 at 8:07
  • @Random you don't pronounce "tu n'a pas z_accent" !! – Archemar Aug 31 '15 at 8:10
  • @Archemar you do... why not ? You always pronounce it in front of a vowel... – Random Aug 31 '15 at 8:12
  • note that it is "tu as" instead of "tu a". I cannot edit because there are only 3 characters. – radouxju Aug 31 '15 at 8:26

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