What are the similarities and differences between the Americanism 'He was like...' And the French expression 'Il était genre...'? They both introduce citations.
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french.stackexchange.com/questions/17943/…– jlliagreMar 3, 2016 at 20:41
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1Getting so few hits (272 and 393, respectively) is adequate confirmation that "j'étais comme OMG" and "j'étais genre OMG" are both non-standard, but I think this is the usage that you’re asking about, no?– Papa PouleMar 5, 2016 at 19:15
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In my experience, the two are pretty much exactly the same and can be used interchangeably. They're both just filler words to give the speaker an extra second to think about what he/she is going to say.
"I was like, 10 miles from home when..."
"J'étais genre, à 10 kilomètres de chez moi lorsque..."
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Sorry, but that is not what I meant. "To be like" is a single verb in the US used to introduce a quote. For example: He was like: "Wow!". Might one say in French: Il était genre: "Waaaouh!". Mar 4, 2016 at 9:37
They mean the same thing, the only difference is on the language level: genre in this situation, e.g.
Il a genre trois ans
He's like, three years old
is in French pretty informal (maybe in English too, I don't know)
This structure doesn't necessarily introduce a citation, but any form of complement (adjective, proposition, noun, and any citation would be reported speech); it mostly adds an overtone of vagueness rather than exact information.
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Sorry, maybe I didn't explain myself well. Take as an example the US expression TO BE LIKE, which acts as a verb that introduces a quote: "He was like: 'I can't stand it.'" Might this translate into French as: "Il était genre: "Je ne peux pas le supporter"? Mar 4, 2016 at 9:29
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1B.Scholl: Ah! You should have made that clearer! Please add this precise context to your question. Mar 4, 2016 at 9:33
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To be like is an informal way of saying to utter/to say (AHDotEL). The word genre (2) is not part of any idiom using the verb être which would yield a similar meaning in French. Être du genre humain for instance, would mean to belong to. The Académie française discusses it indirectly and labels this sort of usage as an "emploi fautif" (incorrect use) : « Il m’a répondu genre j’en sais rien, phrase d’où toute syntaxe a disparu, pourrait se dire Il m’a répondu à peu près, approximativement, en gros qu’il n’en savait rien. ». One can only speculate as to what the Académie would say about the syntax here seeing there is not even the verb répondre/dire in the sentence you provided; worst, there is obfuscation from a verb (être) which is not even part of an idiom here and which doesn't mean to say/utter in any way, shape or form.
Ways to express "il était genre"+quote which are more consistent with the French language :
Il a dit un truc du/dans le genre : « [citation] ».
Il a dit un truc comme : « [citation] ».
Il a dit un truc similaire à : « [citation] ».
The difference is that this is correct, if informal, English, whereas it is most likely incorrect usage in French as the syntax is off.
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Fortunaately English does not have an Académie to tell us how to speak our own language! Mar 6, 2016 at 8:40
En français moyen :
Il était du style : "..."
Il était du genre : "..."
Plus construit:
Il était du style à dire/affirmer/... : "..."
Il était du genre à dire/affirmer/... : "..."
Langue parlée:
Il était genre/style: "..."
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You are doing here a mistranslation as "il était, genre, fou de rage" means: "he was like, completely mad" whereas "il était du genre fou de rage" means "he has a mad nature" Apr 4, 2016 at 16:01