I am writing historical fiction, so pretty good with research. But I am stumped by the use of Monsieur. I realize it was used by royalty referring to the brother of a king. However now it is used as a title for French-speaking gentlemen.

What I cannot find is what title was used for a gentleman prior to its modern general use?

I appreciate any assistance as I cannot find an answer anywhere online.

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    When is your writing set? “Prior to its modern general use” is not a precise time period. And where? French is more unified today than it used to be. – Gilles 'SO nous est hostile' Jun 22 '17 at 8:44
  • That's a really limited view. 'Monsieur' by itself was used for Louis XIV's brother. But that was because he was the most important of his contemporaries, not because that was a title used for all of a king's brothers, or that he initiated it in any way. Monsieur So-and-so was a common title for general nobility, used for centuries before. It'd be helpful if you'd give us a century for your fiction? – user13512 Jun 22 '17 at 18:26

In the Middle-Ages a man of certain importance was addressed as Monsor. The word started being spelt Monsieur in the 16th century.

Monsor - Monsieur is the contraction of Mon - Sieur (My Lord).

Sieur continued being used in front of a man's name, without an initial capital in legal writings. At that time when used in a novel, it gave an ironical or derogatory tone.

  • I certainly appreciate you quick response! Merci. I believe all it could be is Sieur. It is all I can find. Can you tell me if Sieur capitalized when used BEFORE a gentleman's name Such as Sier Daniel Boyd Or should it be sier Daniel Boyd Every translator gives me something different. Vee – Vee Jun 21 '17 at 18:30

En référence à la célèbre scène du réveil du film "La folie des grandeurs", je propose Monseigneur (prononcé monseignor dans l'extrait pour la rime).

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