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I want to get "temps" (French for time) tattooed on me. However, I know it can also mean "weather" and I know that "temps" refers to the concept of time/indefinite time/tense, rather than l'heure... would it make grammatical sense for me to get "temps" tattooed as a standalone word? I do speak French, but was wondering what native French people would think of this. Would it be odd? Merci bcp

  • Comment ferait un français... bhein... il irait sur un forum de latinistes demander comment on dit temps en latin! Non! en fait... je n'y connais rien du tout. Je suis juste à chaque fois étonné de ce qu'un bon quart des questions sur un forum de latinistes que je fréquente porte sur ce besoin. Enfin... O tempora o mores comme on dit... :-) – aCOSwt Nov 25 '18 at 12:33
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French:

Je trouverais cela bizarre, je penserais à un tatouage inachevé et je demanderais éventuellement quel est le reste de la phrase ou du proverbe.

Le concept évoque aussi pour moi les inscriptions sur les cadrans solaires et anciennes horloges, mais je trouverais bizarre également de voir du français plutôt que du latin : Tempus fugit ; Vulnerant omnes, ultima necat, etc.

En tout cas, j'associe spontanément le mot temps sur un tatouage à time et pas à weather ni à tense.


English:

I'd find it weird, it would make me think it's an unfinished tattoo and I might ask what's the rest of the phrase or proverb.

The concept would also remind me of inscriptions on sundials or ancient clocks, but it would be weird to see them in French and not Latin: Tempus fugit ; Vulnerant omnes, ultima necat, etc.

Anyway, I spontaneously associate the word temps with time, not weather or tense.

  • OP ne parle pas français donc je me suis permis de faire une version anglaise. – Teleporting Goat Nov 30 '18 at 15:50
  • @TeleportingGoat - Merci! – mouviciel Dec 1 '18 at 12:43
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"Grammatical sense" is not the idea I think; there is a question of grammar only when a construction is used (verb, subject, complement).

Seeing "temps" anywhere as a standalone word, someone thoroughly familiar with French would probably think that what was meant was either the concept "time as the fourth physical dimension" or the concept "weather"; those concepts are not usually made precise by using a complement; this is not the case for the grammatical concept; for this one the term "temps grammatical" is sometimes used to make clear what's meant. To be unambiguous and direct in your message you'd have to lengthen it a little; for instance something as "(Le) temps qui passe" would do; unfortunately there seems to be nothing shorter. For instance "temps passant" does not stand alone as well.

The shorter "temps fuyant" refers unmistakably to time as the physical quantity but it's not neutral in its reference to time; it connotes the rapid passing of time, it's also an idea about time that poets will readily exploit and a mingling with poetry is possibly not ideal in the make-up of the message.

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To me it sounds (or looks ?) a little weird.

It can work well with other standalone words though. For instance, there's a character in Overwatch with a "Cauchemar" tattoo. It fits, it makes sense. It sounds good when you read it.

But "temps" as a standalone is different. I think it's because it's polysemic (as you said temps can also mean "weather", but it also means "tense" (the verb form)), and it's also very homophonic : there's tant, tend, t'en, taon.

Or maybe it's because as a one-syllable one it just doesn't sound that good when said alone?

I'm not 100% sure that's the reason why it feels off. But maybe a very small sentence with the word could work better.

  • Thinking of one-syllable nouns that could possibly work, I eventually just drifted away from your "cauchemar" to the more peaceful shores of "rêve", which could be fitting for some. Maybe it's only me, though. Or maybe it's the silent E at the end, that could also be pronounced that makes it a false-one-syllable-word (???). Who knows? Agreed, though, that "temps" alone is a bit odd. – Montée de lait Nov 30 '18 at 17:46

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