There’s seems to be a type of sentence, such as

Au sein de ce flux perpétuel, il y en a des forces «actives»

where ”en” is used directly before its reference (”des forces «actives»”): what is the rôle of this seemingly pleonastic ”en”? Is it stylistic or does it make a difference in sense compared to leaving it out? When to use it?


We are missing a bit of context here, but as I understand, It is a way to insist there are some forces "actives", not just any type of force.

I suppose several types of forces were mentioned earlier in the text/speech, then "active" ones and it's a way to insist on those latter ones being present in this flux perpétuel.

One could have also said :

  • (...), il y bien des forces "actives" .
  • (...), il y a effectivement des forces "actives".

I must say it's a "spoken style" sentence, and depending on the intonation of speaker, it could also imply there are a lot of active forces.

Compared to the original sentence, a non-pleonastic variant looks like a plain boring description to me (physics school book's style) :

Au sein de ce flux perpétuel, il y a des forces "actives".

  • Interesting! That fits the informal context (that I should have included in the question), since it came from a user’s book review on Amazon. It makes a lot of sense to think of the ”en” as adding ”insistance”!
    – Urdatorn
    May 21 at 8:10

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