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This is not an answer, but an attempt to schematize the distinction for comprehension by me as a beginner level student.

I want to see ce que in the sense of what as consisting of a demonstrative pronoun and a relative pronoun, on the model of English that which. For example:

  • C’est ce que me dit ma mère.
  • It's what mother tells me.
  • It's that which mother tells me.

But ce que (in à ce que) in the sense of that would consist of a pronoun and a conjunction introducing a clause so that pronoun and clause are apposite.

  • Surtout ne t’attends pas à ce que je puisse te parler.
  • Above all, don't expect it : that I could talk to you.

Again I don't mean that this is correct grammatical analysis or what goes on in the head of a native speaker. By them the expression is probably a single unit not subject to parsing.

If anyone comments on the scheme to tell me why it does not make sense even as a learning device, that too would be great.

This is not an answer, but an attempt to schematize the distinction for comprehension by me as a beginner level student.

I want to see ce que in the sense of what as consisting of a demonstrative pronoun and a relative pronoun, on the model of English that which. For example:

  • C’est ce que me dit ma mère.
  • It's what mother tells me.
  • It's that which mother tells me.

But ce que (in à ce que) in the sense of that would consist of a pronoun and a conjunction introducing a clause so that pronoun and clause are apposite.

  • Surtout ne t’attends pas à ce que je puisse te parler.
  • Above all, don't expect it : that I could talk to you.

Again I don't mean that this is correct grammatical analysis or what goes on in the head of a native speaker. By them the expression is probably a single unit not subject to parsing.

If anyone comments on the scheme to tell me why it does not make sense even as a learning device, that too would be great.

This is not an answer, but an attempt to schematize the distinction for comprehension by me as a beginner level student.

I want to see ce que in the sense of what as consisting of a demonstrative pronoun and a relative pronoun, on the model of English that which. For example:

  • C’est ce que me dit ma mère.
  • It's what mother tells me.
  • It's that which mother tells me.

But ce que in the sense of that would consist of a pronoun and a conjunction introducing a clause so that pronoun and clause are apposite.

  • Surtout ne t’attends pas à ce que je puisse te parler.
  • Above all, don't expect it : that I could talk to you.

Again I don't mean that this is correct grammatical analysis or what goes on in the head of a native speaker. By them the expression is probably a single unit not subject to parsing.

If anyone comments on the scheme to tell me why it does not make sense even as a learning device, that too would be great.

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This is not an answer, but an attempt to schematize the distinction for comprehension by me as a beginner level student.

I want to see ce que in the sense of what as consisting of a demonstrative pronoun and a relative pronoun, on the model of English that which. For example:

  • C’est ce que me dit ma mère.
  • It's what mother tells me.
  • It's that which mother tells me.

But ce que (in à ce que) in the sense of that would consist of a pronoun and a conjunction introducing a clause so that pronoun and clause are apposite.

  • Surtout ne t’attends pas à ce que je puisse te parler.
  • Above all, don't expect it : that I could talk to you.

Again I don't mean that this is correct grammatical or etymological analysis or what goes on in the head of a native speaker. If By them the expression is probably a single unit not subject to parsing.

If anyone comments on the scheme to tell me why it does not make sense even as a learning device, that too would be great.

This is not an answer, but an attempt to schematize the distinction for comprehension by me as a beginner level student.

I want to see ce que in the sense of what as consisting of a demonstrative pronoun and a relative pronoun, on the model of English that which. For example:

  • C’est ce que me dit ma mère.
  • It's what mother tells me.
  • It's that which mother tells me.

But ce que (in à ce que) in the sense of that would consist of a pronoun and a conjunction introducing a clause so that pronoun and clause are apposite.

  • Surtout ne t’attends pas à ce que je puisse te parler.
  • Above all, don't expect it : that I could talk to you.

Again I don't mean that this is correct grammatical or etymological analysis or what goes on in the head of a native speaker. If anyone comments on the scheme to tell me why it does not make sense even as a learning device, that too would be great.

This is not an answer, but an attempt to schematize the distinction for comprehension by me as a beginner level student.

I want to see ce que in the sense of what as consisting of a demonstrative pronoun and a relative pronoun, on the model of English that which. For example:

  • C’est ce que me dit ma mère.
  • It's what mother tells me.
  • It's that which mother tells me.

But ce que (in à ce que) in the sense of that would consist of a pronoun and a conjunction introducing a clause so that pronoun and clause are apposite.

  • Surtout ne t’attends pas à ce que je puisse te parler.
  • Above all, don't expect it : that I could talk to you.

Again I don't mean that this is correct grammatical analysis or what goes on in the head of a native speaker. By them the expression is probably a single unit not subject to parsing.

If anyone comments on the scheme to tell me why it does not make sense even as a learning device, that too would be great.

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Catomic
  • 4.9k
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This is not an answer, but an attempt to schematize the distinction for comprehension by me as a beginner level student.

I want to see ce que in the sense of what as consisting of a demonstrative pronoun and a relative pronoun, on the model of English that which. For example:

  • C’est ce que me dit ma mère.
  • It's what mother tells me.
  • It's that which mother tells me.

But ce que (in à ce que) in the sense of that would consist of a pronoun and a conjunction introducing a clause so that pronoun and clause are apposite.

  • Surtout ne t’attends pas à ce que je puisse te parler.
  • Above all, don't expect it : that I could talk to you.

Again I don't mean that this is correct grammatical or etymological analysis or what goes on in the head of a native speaker. If anyone comments on the scheme to tell me why it does not make sense even as a learning device, that too would be great.