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I searched for ledit (and derived terms such as dudit) here on FSE, and while I found questions and answers in which it was mentioned, I couldn't easily find anything on it specifically.

The meaning is transparent, but I'm interested in its origins. I've only encountered it in the odd archaic French book. The TLF mentions it under dit here. Unfortunately, the etymology lookup doesn't seem to mention it. It's also on Wiktionary but without an "etymology" subheadingmuch of a history.

How, when, and where did these forms come about? Are they still in use, and if so in what contexts? (I notice that some dictionaries, including those indexed on the DVLF, don't have them, at least not under ledit.) If not, when did they disappear? Has anything replaced them?

Edit: Laure observes that French Wiktionary does include an etymology. There it's said that these two words were "grammaticalized", not merely run together in the spelling. Yet to my eyes the sentences parse the same as if they were written with le dit, etc. Why might the words have been run together? Does it reflect a different underlying parsing or is it just a quirk that's never been smoothed out?

I searched for ledit (and derived terms such as dudit) here on FSE, and while I found questions and answers in which it was mentioned, I couldn't easily find anything on it specifically.

The meaning is transparent, but I'm interested in its origins. I've only encountered it in the odd archaic French book. The TLF mentions it under dit here. Unfortunately, the etymology lookup doesn't seem to mention it. It's also on Wiktionary but without an "etymology" subheading.

How, when, and where did these forms come about? Are they still in use, and if so in what contexts? (I notice that some dictionaries, including those indexed on the DVLF, don't have them, at least not under ledit.) If not, when did they disappear? Has anything replaced them?

I searched for ledit (and derived terms such as dudit) here on FSE, and while I found questions and answers in which it was mentioned, I couldn't easily find anything on it specifically.

The meaning is transparent, but I'm interested in its origins. I've only encountered it in the odd archaic French book. The TLF mentions it under dit here. Unfortunately, the etymology lookup doesn't seem to mention it. It's also on Wiktionary but without much of a history.

How, when, and where did these forms come about? Are they still in use, and if so in what contexts? (I notice that some dictionaries, including those indexed on the DVLF, don't have them, at least not under ledit.) If not, when did they disappear? Has anything replaced them?

Edit: Laure observes that French Wiktionary does include an etymology. There it's said that these two words were "grammaticalized", not merely run together in the spelling. Yet to my eyes the sentences parse the same as if they were written with le dit, etc. Why might the words have been run together? Does it reflect a different underlying parsing or is it just a quirk that's never been smoothed out?

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I searched for ledit (and derived terms such as dudit) here on FSE, and while I found questions and answers in which it was mentioned, I couldn't easily find anything on it specifically.

The meaning is transparent, but I'm interested in its origins. I've only encountered it in the odd archaic French book. The TLF mentions it under dit here (second tab, entry II)here. Unfortunately, the etymology lookup doesn't seem to mention it. It's also on Wiktionary but without an "etymology" subheading.

How, when, and where did these forms come about? Are they still in use, and if so in what contexts? (I notice that some dictionaries, including those indexed on the DVLF, don't have them, at least not under ledit.) If not, when did they disappear? Has anything replaced them?

I searched for ledit (and derived terms such as dudit) here on FSE, and while I found questions and answers in which it was mentioned, I couldn't easily find anything on it specifically.

The meaning is transparent, but I'm interested in its origins. I've only encountered it in the odd archaic French book. The TLF mentions it under dit here (second tab, entry II). Unfortunately, the etymology lookup doesn't seem to mention it. It's also on Wiktionary but without an "etymology" subheading.

How, when, and where did these forms come about? Are they still in use, and if so in what contexts? (I notice that some dictionaries, including those indexed on the DVLF, don't have them, at least not under ledit.) If not, when did they disappear? Has anything replaced them?

I searched for ledit (and derived terms such as dudit) here on FSE, and while I found questions and answers in which it was mentioned, I couldn't easily find anything on it specifically.

The meaning is transparent, but I'm interested in its origins. I've only encountered it in the odd archaic French book. The TLF mentions it under dit here. Unfortunately, the etymology lookup doesn't seem to mention it. It's also on Wiktionary but without an "etymology" subheading.

How, when, and where did these forms come about? Are they still in use, and if so in what contexts? (I notice that some dictionaries, including those indexed on the DVLF, don't have them, at least not under ledit.) If not, when did they disappear? Has anything replaced them?

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