I tend to have problems getting it right with “de”.

To my knowledge, one uses “beaucoup de + nom (singulier)”.

But some other cases confuse me. For example

Liste de valeurs/Liste des valeurs/Liste de valeur

Which one is correct and what is the grammar rule?

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All forms can be used with different meanings.

Liste de valeurs : The list contains values.

Liste des valeurs : The list contains "the" values (des is a contraction of de + les here).

Liste de valeur : The list itself is valuable, probably not what you mean.

  • Thank @jilliagre. What is the difference in meaning between your first two explanations. I understand you meant Liste [de les] valeurs for the second phrase. Btw, that's interesting the last phrase's meaning. I learn something new.
    – Kenny
    Commented Nov 27, 2015 at 13:55
  • @Kenny In the first exemple, you are talking about the list (which contains values). In the second, you are talking about the values (which are in the list).
    – Random
    Commented Nov 27, 2015 at 14:49
  • Can you elaborate ? In which scenario would we talk about the values. For your first meaning (talking about the list) I suppose when we talk about"Let's look at this list of values", "I'll give you a list of values" ?
    – Kenny
    Commented Nov 27, 2015 at 15:53
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    @Kenny « Voici la liste des valeurs demandées » (you asked for some values, that you gathered in a list), or « Voici la liste de valeurs demandée » (you asked for a list made of values). Note that in the first sentence, "demandées" takes an "s", and the the second, it doesn't. It shows that the subject is not the same.
    – Random
    Commented Nov 27, 2015 at 17:41
  • Nice explanation. Thank you Random
    – Kenny
    Commented Nov 27, 2015 at 17:52

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