How do you say 1.000.001 in French?

Question

How do you say 1.000.001 in French and actually get understood?

If you say un million un, people understand 1.100.000 most of the time, other simple possibilities like un million et un seem strange. The same strange things happen until un million mille...

And what about the name of the rank? The 1.000.000th is called le millionième, what is the name of the next ones?

Answer 1

In most use cases, there would be no ambiguity. The context will generally rule out the strictly correct option if you talk about prices or actual quantities :

Cette maison coûte un million deux.

Cannot mean but €1.2M in France, same with :

Il y a trois million huit habitants dans cette ville (= 3.8M inhabitants).

Un million un sounds a little odd, un million cent is more common to mean 1.1M.

Same for Un million dix to Un million quatre-vingt-dix neuf, they might be too rarely used, if ever, to deserve being mentioned.

When you really want to tell 1 000 001, you certainly can use un million et un but with something to qualify last "one":

Un million et un habitant.

Un million et deux Euros.

Un million et quatre unités.

One can also say the unambiguous :

Pile (ou exactement) un million plus un habitant.

Answer 2

The correct way to say 1 000 001 in French is indeed "un million un". I do hear sometimes "un million un" for 1 100 000. It may come from "1.1 millions". It is incorrect and as we say in French it is "un abus de langage".

To be sure people understand what I meant, I would say "un million-et-un".

1 000 000 : "millionième", 1 000 001 : "million-et-unième"

Answer 3

Value approximation

After carefully considering a very insightful answer, I suggest the following:

un million un exactement. [I don't grant specific importance to the adverb being postponed]

The reason is that I¹ equate the understanding of "un million un" as 1 100 000 to a limited context: the approximation, and mostly if not entirely about monetary value. Put differently, I see this as a setup where the unit is pinned to the millions², with 1(me) up to 3(OP, linked A.) significant digits following. The focus is on a final upcoming component to complete the string and get an idea of the value. If it's one, it's one hundred ; if it's one hundred, it's also one hundred; and those are all thousands³. This sort of usage cannot yield a more precise number using its system (1 200 234 ; un million deux[-cents] [pause/et?] deux-cent-trente-quatre ?? ; this is similar to the string decomposing required to qualify and read big numbers, but without following through with placing mille anywhere). The precision level stemming from this monetary value context can be dispelled imho using a precision bearing adverb (exactement), as introduced in the answer I alluded to, but without resorting to the conjunction.

The following are considerations about a solution (un million et un) appearing in every other answer and which showcase the underlying logic prompting this conclusion (and subsidiarily my belief that using the conjunction is not standard and is reminiscent of artifacts of old).

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The conjunction "et" (un million et un)

Using the conjunction et with integer numbers to escape the shortcomings of the proposed usage is not mainstream. Moreover, it ignores the classic grammar rule from Antoine Oudin's Grammaire françoise (1632) which states that using the conjunction is for speaking convenience and shouldn't be used within numbers except those under 100 for some of the tens of starting with one (vingt-et-un, not vingt-et-deux; see also, modern: 1, 2, 3; number to text: 1, 2) :

Le bon usage (Grevisse et Goosse, ed. Duculot, §593, note H) explains this was mostly followed in the 18th even though there was still uncertainty later on, admittedly even in the 20th. It quotes for instance the 1846 Bescherelle grammar which allowed for "vingt-un", "trente-un" (up to 60); in that case the uncertainty was not so much about adding extra conjunctions, but rather about not using them at all in cases which are mostly completely settled today. There used to be a time when :

M. et C. et quatre vinz et XVII. anz après l'incarnation (Villehardouin)

...was quite usual, but that Latin influence has come and gone and numbers are no longer constructed like so. The addition (as opposed to multiplying) process of number generation mostly involves the use of the dash (trait d'union), not that of the conjunction; it is not an arithmetic looking process like the old Latin inspired forms. The conjunction and the dash are also used to establish subtle differences between a number and an arithmetic operation post-Reform; fractions and such won't be discussed further.

The indetermination

Which is not to say that you can never have the conjunction with numbers above 100. Les mille et une nuits, Les mille et un jours, are titles of literary work, whereas mille et trois has specific connotations related to the don Juan in literature. Otherwise you can also have "mille et un" and "cent et un" in some generic indeterminate way to express a large number as opposed to any accurate one. Of course there are further exceptions, including to this indeterminate nature itself : "Mille et un francs" (Pagnol)⁴. But in my opinion, the field is crowded and this creates potential interference with sequences containing et un (especially) or et trois as opposed to the others, and therefore is not uniform or predictable. If someone tells me "un million et une... idées", I perceive it as a variation on mille et une, not "un million une".

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_{1. I'll provide my own usage experience (from Québec ; for France see other answers) for context. I can hear "un million deux" as 1 200 000 in context no problem. I cannot hear "un million deux cents" to mean 1 200 000 (I understand 1 000 200) without hearing "mille" along. I can hear "à peu près/dans les/autour de un million deux" (+- 1 200 000); I can hear "entre un million deux et un million trois" to be somewhere in between 1 200 000 and 1 300 000 or close to 1 250 000, but not a variation which wouldn't repeat "millions" ("entre un million deux et trois"). Finally none of these trump "un point deux millions" for me (virgule instead of point works too, is just less usual to me) ; this is the only way I can hear numbers applied to something else than money, like inhabitants (I don't hear un million deux habitants as anything but 1 000 002). I would find a statement that most of the time people understand, irrespective of context, "un million un" as 1 100 000, surprising, and would want to know more about that group of speakers.}

_{2. This "pinning" to a unit reminds me of the leeway we have with certain elements in a context such as a table or statistical documents; for instance using the currency sign and expressing values as millions or milliers; I acknowledge we're talking about the spoken language in this Q but such tables are often about approximations with a set number of significant digits.}

_{3. It's useful to keep in mind that mille is not like millier and million: it is ever so rarely a substantive, except for the distance unit and few other exceptions (des milles de boîtes à remplir, old/rare/regional; other example). Mille is not a substantive in a number; and there is no plural agreement. There are intricate implications when mixing numbers and words to devise written words; for instance you would not write: 2 millions 300 mille dollars. I want to stress here that this has nothing to do with grammar; it is about "display logic", typography and acknowledgement of the nature of the numeric adjective "mille".}

_{4. The paragraph, up to this point, is based on the LBU(§593). Here's the context for the Pagnol quote: "Je fis aussitôt l'addition : 780 et 210, cela faisait 990 francs. Je pensais que j'avais sept francs dans ma tirelire, et je savais, malgré les cachotteries de Paul, qu'il possédait au moins quatre francs. Cela faisait donc mille et un francs." (Marcel Pagnol, Le château de ma mère, )}

Answer 4

If you are in a context in which you only mentioned big round numbers like 500000 or 3000000 and you suddenly need to read out 1000001, I'm afraid you cannot avoid some very cumbersome description like:

• Un million et un, juste un, pas cent mille
• Un million un, je veux dire un zéro zéro zéro … et un

On other hand, if you are reading a series, with detailed numbers like 154005, 3650084, etc. then “un million un” should be understood properly I think.

“Un million-et-un” is a bit odd but not unbearably so. If you make a short pause between “un million” and “et un” (and perhaps a brief hand gesture to explain “at the end”!), it could be effective.

Answer 5

After researching this question outside our community, I have come to a strange realization:

• million is a unit name and is interpreted as such when isolated

  • un million un works like un kilo deux (1.2kg) or deux mètres dix (2.10m)
  • in French, subunits used this way are limited to thousandths, so the interference runs from 1 to 999
  • but when actually counting an explicit unit as in un million un chats it is understood as 1,000,001.

• as million is a noun, something else occurs at the number preceding the one in my original question.

  • we can say in French 999 999 chats as well as 1 000 001 chats but not 1 000 000 chats... the latter as to be said 1 000 000 de chats, the same way we have to say un kilo de carottes